Jakarta EE Platform Call

Date: 2020-11-17

Present:

• Kevin Sutter (IBM)
• Ivar Grimstad (Eclipse Foundation)
• Cesar Hernandez (Tomitribe)
• Nitin Dahyabhai (Eclipse WTP)
• Scott Marlow (Red Hat)
• David Blevins (Tomitribe)
• Jean-Louis Monteiro (Tomitribe)
• Brian Stansberry (Red Hat)
• Tanja Obradovic (Eclipse Foundation)
• BJ Hargrave (IBM)
• Ed Bratt (Oracle)
• Kenji Kazumura (Fujitsu)
• Werner Keil (Individual)
• Paul Nicolucci (IBM)
• Emily Jiang (IBM)
• Steve Millidge (Payara)
• Ryan Cuprak (Jakarta EE Ambassadors)

Agenda and Minutes

Major vs Point release numbering for Platform

DECISION

• Major version of platform:
  • New major version of specifications
  • New specifications added
  • Backward incompatible changes
• All others are minor

Timebox the releases or based on feature content?

DECISION

• Goal to release 9.1 early in H1 2021
• If there are other spec ready during the year, another release (minor or major) will be on the table
• The time boxed option will be considered later

Discussion regarding backwards incompatible changes

• Current Guidelines: https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/CompatibilityRequirements
• Should we allow breaking changes?
  • Is PortableRemoteObject moving to EJB SPEC API a breaking change?
    • No, applications can still use Java 8 PortableRemoteObject.
    • TCK tests will change to EJB SPEC API PortableRemoteObject though in 9.1.
• Deprecate first and remove in next release?
• Give a couple of releases to prepare for incompatible changes?
• Ask the projects if they have breaking changes prepared?
• Breaking changes must be documented thoroughly in the project’s plan review
• If a breaking change affects the platform, it must be identified in the platform specification as well

Jakarta EE 9.1 (recurring agenda item)

• Goal to release early in H1 2021
• GlassFish 6.x JDK 11 support
• Platform TCK JDK 8 + 11 or only JDK 11 support?
• If GlassFish 6.2 only supports JDK 11, which EE implementation passes the (optional) JDK 8 tests on EE 9.1 for certification?
• Should we start requesting plan reviews from all components that want to release new versions with 9.1?
  • Set a deadline for this?
  • Set requirements for inclusion in the release
    • Plan plan review for the platform specification
    • Create a draft of this (release plan)
    • Continue this discussion next week (start with this)

Jakarta EE NEXT (recurring agenda item)

• NEXT may be major or minor depending on the content

How do we handle Optional parts (discussion item for next meeting)

• Will potentially require a change in the EFSP
• Bring this to the specification committee