Jakarta EE Platform Call

Date: 2021-01-26

Present:

• Ivar Grimstad (Eclipse Foundation)
• Kevin Sutter (IBM)
• Jean-Louis Monteiro (Tomitribe)
• Thomas Watson (IBM)
• Andy McCright (IBM)
• Brian Stansberry (Red Hat)
• Dmitry Kornilov (Oracle)
• Cesar Hernandez (Tomitribe)
• Ed Bratt (Oracle)
• Scott Marlow (Red Hat)
• Emily Jiang (IBM)
• Paul Nicolucci (IBM)
• Kenji Kazumura (Fujitsu)
• Ryan Cuprak (Jakarta EE Ambassadors)
• Tanja Obradovic (Eclipse Foundation)

Agenda and Minutes

Jakarta EE 9.1

• Java SE Compatibility (#287)
  • There were references in the platform spec very limited to Java SE 8
  • Would not allow us to move to Java SE 11 runtime
  • This issue (287) suggests to loosen up the language in the spec
  • We want to limit changes regarding Java SE level to the platform spec(s)
  • Changes in the individual specs regarding this should be limited to updates in the specification document if necessary
  • java:comp/orb references are in both the Platform and EJB spec (why the EJB spec?)
  • Kevin will open an Issue to declare the CORBA ORB as optional in the Platform spec – how would this affect the EJB spec?
    • https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/issues/300
    • This actually shows that the Platform spec is in pretty good shape. And, if this was sufficient for Jakarta EE 9 and EJB 4, then is there any reason why EJB 4.1 would require an update? Doubt it.
  • Applet Container removal – Issue for next release?
    • https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/issues/298
    • Deprecated in Java SE 9
      • https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/java.desktop/java/applet/Applet.html
      • https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/javaclientroadmapupdatev2020may-6548840.pdf
• Conclusion: Looks like we will not need to release a new version of Jakarta Enterprise Beans. We will try to cover everything in the Platform specification.

[KWS] Specification Service Releases

• Issues and PRs created to clarify process
  • https://github.com/EclipseFdn/EFSP/issues/29
• Will be an agenda item on tomorrow’s Spec Committee call w/ Wayne

Guesstimates on Dates for Jakarta EE 9.1 release date

• Should run current Jakarta EE 9.1 TCK against Glassfish with Java SE 11 just to get a reading on the overall impact (TCK, Glassfish, both) – Action for Scott M and Glassfish team. Other app servers could also feed in their experiences (Open Liberty, Wildfly, TomEE, etc)

TCK action for 9.1

• David: Remove PortableRemoteObject.narrow calls in TCK tests.
• Make Corba ORB references optional.
  • Scott: Duplicate tests + remove ORB from one copy of the tests.
• Platform TCK/GlassFish teams to discuss where SE 8 TCK testing happens for 9.1
  • Current plan is for GlassFish Jenkins to do SE 11 TCK testing.

Schema discussion (added at end of call, more followup needed…)

• https://jakarta.ee/specifications/platform/9/jakarta-platform-spec-9.html#schemas talks about requiring Jakarta EE 8 schemas in EE 9.