Jakarta EE Platform Call

Date: 2024-06-04

Present:

• Ed Burns (MSFT)
• Arjan Tijms (OmniFish)
• Jared Anderson (IBM)
• Kyle Aure (IBM)
• Anand (IBM)
• Emily Jiang (IBM)
• Gautham Krishnan (IBM)
• Jim Krueger (IBM)
• Riva Philip (IBM)
• Nathan Rauh (IBM)
• James Perkins (Red Hat)
• Scott Marlow (Red Hat)
• Brian Stansberry (Red Hat)
• Jan Westerkamp (iJUG)
• Ivar Grimstad (Eclipse Foundation)
• Werner Keil (Committer/Ambassador)
• Dmitry Kornilov (Oracle)
• Scott Stark (Red Hat)
• Ed Bratt (Oracle)
• Kenji Kazumura (Fujitsu)
• Cesar Hernandez (Tomitribe)

Agenda and Minutes

Top-of-mind from Ed and Arjan

• Logistics item
  • Ed cannot attend the Steering Committee call today. Can anyone here represent the Platform Project at that call? It starts 30 minutes after this call completes.
  • Arjan agreed to cover for Ed.
• Risk management
  • Data impl for GlassFish 8.0-JDK17.
    • https://github.com/jakartaredhat/hibernate-data-tck-gf/issues/1
      • Resolved
      • Runner passes all Jakarta Data TCK tests
      • https://github.com/jakartaredhat/hibernate-data-tck-gf/wiki/JD_100_TCK_Results
      • hibernate-data-tck-2
    • Approach used by Hibernate Data Repositories 6.6.0.Alpha1:
      • Use static metamodel generator hibernate-jpamodelgen to generate the code.
      • Bundle the generated code into the war.
      • Use the WAR to pass the platform TCK
      • https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/tags
    • Plan of record for GlassFish 8.0-jdk17 is to use the work that Scott Stark has done in order to pass the platform TCK as the Ratifying Compatible Implementation.
      • Other compatible implementations can use different approaches.
      • Ed and Arjan extend a big thanks to Red Hat for this.
  • Finish the platform / profile TCKs
    • Go to a weekly cadence on the platform TCK meetings from now until we are done.
    • Ed will commit to attending from now until we are done.
    • Need to decide
      • Ask for more time to get the refactoring complete for EE 11.
        • “Not an option to stall the refactoring mid-way”
      • Go back to the JavaTest way, again, for EE 10.
        • Ed and Jan agree this would be a very bad outcome, because this would be the second major release where we did this.
    • When can we ask for a date? Or a date for a date?
    • Open ReWrite recipes to refactor (wiki)
      • Alternative (web) solution https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/pull/1319 (Standalone Persistence TCK runner inside Glassfish).
    • Platform TCK call last week: update?
  • Update of spec text in platform
    • Spec integration text added to the platform / profile specs?
    • May be platform / profile specific tests needed to be added
    • Action: Now that the components are done, it is time to focus on the Platform and profile spec updates and tests.
    • Action for all: Read through the changes made since EE 10
      • E.g.
        • Component specs listed are EE 10 versions still
        • platform change for Persistence?
          • https://github.com/jakartaee/platform/pull/746 is a PR for Persistence CDI integration waiting for evaluation. Will need TCK tests as well.
        • CDI Integration changes from CDI spec moved over to the platform / profile specs?
        • ACTION: Ed to review this PR in concert with Lukas Jungman
• [Emily] Jakarta Validation TCK needs to do a service release to pick up the following 2 PRs
  • https://github.com/jakartaee/validation-tck/pull/198
  • ACTION: Scott will need do the service release.
  • ACTION: Jared to raise challenge on validation-spec repo for 198.
  • https://github.com/jakartaee/validation-spec/issues
• [Emily] Jakarta Tags needs to do a service release to address
  • ACTION: Paul Nicolucci working on this.
  • Challenge 1: https://github.com/jakartaee/tags/issues/256
  • Challenge 2: https://github.com/jakartaee/tags/issues/255
    • platform-tck PR: https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/pull/1312
  • IMPL/API PR: https://github.com/jakartaee/tags/pull/254
• Question for the TCK Project: Have the CDI tests been moved from the CDI TCK to the Platform TCK/Web Profile TCK/Core Profile TCK?
  • https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/pull/1220 needs to be moved into the refactor branch
  • Verify with Scott Stark if the work is complete
    • https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/issues/1315 is tracking issue for merging master branch Platform tck changes to the tck refactor branch.
• For EE 12 can the mentor review happen during the Milestone or Release Candidate releases instead of during the release review? (Kyle Aure)
  • Jakarta Data and Jakarta Concurrency have suffered many iterations of re-releasing their GA versions
  • The mentor review happened during the release review process where checklists were provided that we had not previously known. (at least I did not because this is my first time)
  • Action: The spec committee should reach out to the spec projects for input to the retrospective, such as provided above.

Previous wave

• Wave 5 release review initiated by 2024-03-29
  • Spec projects
    • **Jakarta Authorization **
      • Ballot passed and API available in Maven Central
      • CCR approved and closed \
    • Jakarta Persistence*
      • Ballot passed and API available in Maven Central
      • CCR approved and closed
    • Jakarta Validation*
      • Ballot passed and API available in Maven Central
      • CCR approved and closed
    • Jakarta WebSocket*
      • Ballot passed and API available in Maven Central
      • CCR approved and closed
    • Jakarta Servlet*
      • Ballot passed. \
    • Jakarta Pages*
      • Ballot started 2024-05-22. Should complete on 2024-06-04.
      • 10 +1s already \
  • Service releases
    • XML Web Services
      • Published last week
    • Tag Libraries
      • Need to update dependencies.
        • Need to be done by Paul Nicolucci.
        • Needs TCK challenge https://github.com/jakartaee/tags/issues/255 also to be completed for Java 21
        • Status: Being worked on. Draft PR created.
  • Actions for 2024-03-29 and M3
    • Ed, Ivar, Arjan
      • M3 release
        • Lingering, in staging
        • Waiting: servlet and pages
        • Will be released shortly after

Current wave

• Wave 6, 7 specs release review initiated by 2024-04-27
  • Spec projects
    • Jakarta Faces*
      • Ballot started 2024-05-21. Should complete on 2024-06-04.
      • 11 +1s already
      • Speedbump
        • Ticket filed. See JEA-378 for link to GitLab ticket.
    • Jakarta Data* (release review initiated by 2024-05-31)
      • Ballot started 2024-05-23. Should complete on 2024-06-06.
      • 11 +1s already
    • Jakarta Concurrency*
      • Ballot started 2024-05-23. Should complete on 2024-06-06.
      • 11 +1s already
    • Jakarta Security*
      • PR Filed https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/741
      • CCR for JDK 21 and JDK 17 added
      • Should be ready,** but just doesn’t start???** \
    • Jakarta Authentication*
      • PR Filed https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/735
      • CCR for JDK 21 added and JDK 17 added
      • Should be ready, but just doesn’t start???
        \
    • Risks
      • Finish the platform / profile TCKs
        • When will the refactoring be done?
        • Iteration 1: when an impl can run and pass the tests
        • Not an option to stall the refactoring mid-way
        • When can we ask for a date? Or a date for a date?
        • Soon at at point where we can onboard more people from the spec project teams to help with the work
        • Open ReWrite recipes to refactor
        • Platform TCK call this week.
        • Jan suggested completing the Core Profile TCK first for shorter feedback loop. Volunteers wanted.
      • Implementation that passes everything
        • GF close
        • Jakarta Data implementation GlassFish?
          • Hack on EclipseLink
            • ACTION: Ed to check with Gavin about how easily extracted is the Jakarta Data impl they have done in Hibernate so we can put it in EclipseLink?
            • Marlow: I heard from Scott regarding https://github.com/jakartaredhat/hibernate-data-tck-gf/issues/1 (adding link here after the Platform call as FYI.)
          • Use JNoSQL
            • Ed asked Otavio about this on Monday 2024-05-20.
          • Hibernate development
            • Scott Stark created the runner
            • 9 out of 99 are failing, all due to SQL failures
              • Out of bound on Derby
              • Derby dialect fails
              • May use H2
        • GlassFish status to this week
      • **Update of spec text in platform **
        • Spec integration text added to the platform / profile specs?
        • May be platform / profile specific tests needed to be added
        • Action: Now that the components are done, it is time to focus on the Platform and profile spec updates and tests.
        • Action for all: Read through the changes made since EE 10
          • E.g.
            • platform change for Persistence?
            • CDI Integration
    • **Questions for the TCK Project: **
      • Have the CDI tests been moved from the CDI TCK to the Platform TCK/Web Profile TCK/Core Profile TCK?
        • https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/pull/1220 needs to be moved into the refactor branch
        • Verify with Scott Stark if the work is complete
        • https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/issues/1315 is tracking issue for merging master branch Platform tck changes to the tck refactor branch.
      • Will the Persistence tests run on an actual Server/container?
        • Persistence TCK was passed running EclipseLink and Hibernate in Java SE mode. No server of any kind (no GlassFish, no WildFly, etc) was ever even started to pass these tests.
        • TCK needs to be updated to support “platform mode”, but is this even possible without a re-release of the TCK???
  • OCX24 (former EclipseCon): CfP is still open:
    https://www.ocxconf.org/event/2024/summary \
  • regular deadline is 2024-06-10
    Having a BoF session for the Working Group?