Jakarta EE Platform Call

Date: 2024-09-03

Present:

• James Perkins (Red Hat)
• Jared Anderson (IBM)
• Kyle Aure (IBM)
• Emily JIang (IBM)
• Gautham Krishnan (IBM)
• Jim Krueger (IBM)
• Anand NK (IBM)
• Riva Philip (IBM)
• Ed Burns (MSFT)
• Nathan Rauh (IBM)
• Tom Watson (IBM)
• Brian Stansberry (Red Hat)
• John Clingan (Red Hat)
• Lukas Jungmann (Oracle)
• Scott Marlow (Red Hat)
• Ivar Grimstad (Eclilpse Foundation)
• Arjan Tijms (OmniFish)
• Petr Aubrecht (Payara)
• Jan Westerkamp (iJUG)

Agenda and Minutes

Top-of-mind from Ed and Arjan

• USA Holiday yesterday, did not pre-fill agenda.
• Met with Lukas Jungmann last week.
  • Ed understands PR-746
  • Ed will send PR to update spec sections relating to “injection like” feature set in @Resource and JNDI with respect to future investment direction in CDI.
• ACTION: Ed to follow up with Arjan about commitments for EE 11 timeframe
  • Confirm with Arjan about his EE 11 deliverables
  • GlassFish 8 JDK 17 still targeted as ratifying compatible implementation
• JAX FL JUG Tuesday 2024-09-10
  • Ivar availability TBD
  • ACTION: Ed to reach out to Eyal. Offer bonus.
    • Jared to help with FROM clause for EE 11 Liberty
    • Emily to help with POM changes for EE 11 Liberty \

Refactoring Progress Report

• Summary of Platform TCK discussion regarding different options for TCK refactoring plans for EE 11.
  • Ed gives summary of Steering Committee and TCK calls last week with Will Lyons.
    • Scott Marlow did emphasize that we’ve had lots of feedback in the past about the undesirability of the Plan B approach.
• https://github.com/orgs/jakartaee/projects/12/views/1 TCK test buckets totals updated as per last EE 10 GlassFish 7 run as mentioned in https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-tck-dev/msg02074.html email.
• ACTION: Arjan to ask David M. to see if he can attend the Platform TCK call tomorrow 2024-09-04 11A00 EDT.
• github.com:jakartaredhat/wildfly-ee11-tck-runner is an example TCK runner (work in progress). \

Jakarta EE 11

• JEA-441: Ed Spec updates for CDI and Persistence changes.
• JEA-248: Ed Changes in EE 11 section
• JEA-439: Need owner Fix table 2 \

Jakarta EE 12

• Set a target date for having a first announceable draft of the EE 12 release plan?
  • What have we publicly stated for EE 12?
    • Goal is LTS + 6 months. This is H1CY26.
      • This means most of the work needs to be completed in CY2025.
      • Wave 1 2026-01
  • Ivar stated it is more useful to have target dates for the component specs.
    • Each of the component specs must produce a platform plan review
    • Take the EE 11 release plan and add N months. Aim to have the milestones overall earlier in the cycle than we did in EE 11.
  • Jared observed the top down/bottom up approach impacts our approach here.
    • Two things:
      • Schedule: timing
        • Milestone schedule
      • Plan: content
  • Jan observed that the wave ordering will need to be refreshed based on the changes we made in EE 11.
• JEA-414: Application client deprecation