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Date: 2025-01-28
Present
- Jan Westerkamp (iJUG)
- Scott Marlow (Red Hat)
- James Perkins (Red Hat)
- Jared Anderson (IBM)
- Anand NK (IBM)
- Nathan Rauh (IBM)
- Tom Watson (IBM)
- Ed Burns (MSFT)
- John Clingan (Red Hat)
- Gurunandan Rao(Oracle)
- Dmitry Kornilov (Oracle)
- Ed Bratt (Oracle)
Agenda
Top of mind for Ed, Arjan, Jared
TCK Refactoring Jakarta EE 11
- Will cover high level status today, but more detailed discussion will happen at the TCK call tomorrow
- Discussed schedule last week at the TCK call
- Rough estimate that we can say is 1Q, but can’t know that will be attainable due to resources
- Alwin fixed the outstanding 9 JPA failures for Web Profile.
- Arjan has not run them yet, but will be doing so once he finishes up some tooling work.
- TCK call Agenda for tomorrow:
- Mailing list question about CORBA, javax.CORBA and PortableRemoteObject being checked in signature test or not.
- These packages are not required by the platform any longer.
- Release Core, Web, Platform together or independent?
- Core Profile is available except for the TCK archive discussed in top of mind
- Web Profile hope to complete 1Q and Platform hopefully by end of 2Q
Jakarta EE 12
- Issues labeled for Jakarta EE 12
- Reach out to prospective specifications to gauge interest?
- Jakarta MVC
- Included in vendor implementations like glassfish + WildFly. Not sure if used by customers
- Not sure if they have consumed EE 11 API
- May not be as popular with customers with new frameworks available
- Jakarta Config
- Concerns about integration with Config if added late and not used by component specs. Part of why having this discussion early.
- Need to determine integration with MP Config
- CDI integration with Config does bring up some messiness. May need different function for Core Profile vs Web / Platform
- Does Jakarta Config include all of what MP Config does or a subset of it?
- Been discussed at the MP technical calls the last few weeks
- May need to consider a Bridge spec (hosted in Jakarta or MP)
- Discussed moving MP Config directly to Jakarta Core Profile in the past
- RedHat opposed doing this move (RedHat does have vote for ballots)
- Governance and technical issues
- CN4J would be a place to have these types of discussions about Jakarta and MP Config
- Jakarta NoSQL
- Depends on Jakarta Config being included?
- Would be good to embraced by NoSQL vendors to have multiple implementations
- Currently have one implementation Eclipse JNoSQL
- Has proprietary Driver API
- Implementation has API above what is in the spec that may need to be moved to the spec API for completeness to allow to move to a 1.0 release
- Includes Jakarta Data integration
- Supported by Quarkus
- Open Liberty documents how to use NoSQL with the product
- Glassfish team would like to include it in the platform per Arjan
- If included in the platform, could have integration with Data and Security (as a new NoSQL DataStore)
- Jakarta RPC
- Plan Reviews
- Data has a 1.1 release plan and has requested review
- Any other components working on release plans?
- Faces team started adding EE12 label to issues
- APIs with SecurityManager / AccessController / PrivilegedAction references (Platform issue 1018)
- Activation (issue and PR)
- Batch (issue and PR)
- CDI (issue and PR) PR merged already
- JSON-P (issue and PR)
- Mail (issue and PR)
- Persistence (issue and PR)
- REST (issue and PR) PR merged already
- Servlet (issue and PR) (just a javadoc update)
- Validation (issue and PR) (changes could be done in a service release since 3.1 was new in EE 11)
- SOAP, XML Binding and XML Web Services also have references to SecurityManager artifacts and could be updated in a minor release independent of EE 12
- Connector has specification references that need to be cleaned up as well (issue)
- SecurityPermission annotation that may also need to be deprecated for removal. Needs investigation
Jakarta EE 11
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