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Date: 2026-06-30
Present:
- Jared Anderson(IBM)
- John Clingan (IBM)
- Neena Jacob (IBM)
- Anija K A (IBM)
- James Perkins (IBM)
- Nathan Rauh (IBM)
- Brian Stansberry (IBM)
- Tom Watson (IBM)
- Arjan Tijms (OmniFish)
- David Matejcek (OmniFish)
- Jan Westerkamp (iJUG)
- Scott Marlow(IBM)
Top of mind for Jared, James
- 18 new CCRs from Payara
- Jakarta Future Directions call is now once a month at least through the summer months
- Jared out for the July 14 meeting
Jakarta EE 12
- M6 week 1 of 6 starts this week (M6 ends Aug 31)
- Core Profile progress
- CDI
- JSON-B
- 3.1.0 M1 is now out
- Kyle is out for 6 weeks
- JSON-P
- No M1 yet, but is planned
- REST
- No M1 yet
- Need more committers to be active in order to get PR merged. Without 3 active committers, nothing can merge in REST
- James looked at changing the rules, but that was rejected
- Specification still references JAX-RS in spec and other places which has been blocked being updated in the past by veto
- Jersey has lost a lot of committers due to Oracle lay offs
- Debate about how many implementations are needed
- Had this discussion with REST, CDI, NoSQL and Persistence
- There are no requirement to have more than one implementation
- Over time vendors may coalesce to one implementation
- Starting a second / third implementation is time consuming especially as a specification grows
- If there is only one implementation, others are welcome to contribute to it.
- Reasons to have a new implementation include licensing and governance
- Need to have multiple vendors contributing to an implementation if there is only one implementation to get diverse thought from the spec experts
- Zoom meeting settings discussion about transcript and meeting notes from it
- Zoom AI is enabled in this meeting and can see a transcript from the app
- Tanja will look into it.
- MP
- Updates from MP call last week
- Steering committee meeting did not have quorum. Reschedule to next week
- Eclipse Foundation is looking to have updates done in all charters for working groups to create some standardization
- Jakarta is also looking at these charter changes as well as other ones that are being explored. Will be discussed at Jakarta Steering committee
- Example updates: Eclipse is asking to be made are about quorum and voting language. Mostly clarification and adding things that were missing.
- Example, “Simple Majority” paragraph missing from Jakarta Charter and the MP Charter
- MP 7.2 targeting July 21, 2026
- Could be delayed due to ratifying implementation delays
- Still wanting to move Jakarta Config story forward
- It is on the schedule for the MP Steering committee
- Faces and Security spec are progressing to get to a new milestone version soon(ish)
- Security adding REST integration
- May be advantage to have an API to get the REST endpoint URLs
- Currently using a Provider to discover all endpoints
- An API to get all endpoints could have a security risk of course
- Scott: XML Binding 4.0.3 TCK was accidentally built with Java 21 as per https://github.com/jakartaee/jaxb-tck/issues/197 (thanks Robert Patrick for reporting!)
- Lukas may not be able to do an update in the near future
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